Jan 11, 2024
“The” orthodox is not appropriate. Orthodox are extremely diverse and you’ve cherry picked extreme groups like Satmar. Also even for some movements who were against secular Zionism 100 years ago are no longer. It’s also false that without the Torah there is no Jewish Israel. Jews descend from Judeans who had a land based culture and only largely after forcibly displaced did they create Talmud Judaism to sustain Judeans without the land.